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I'm preparing a document that gives advice on sending email from within Cambridge University. The aim is to correct some confusion about the difference between our message submission server and our smart host, which has not mattered much in the past but will when we disable unauthenticated access to the former. I'm also documenting the forthcoming rate limiting restrictions.

Any comments or questions are welcomed. It'll be announced properly in due course...

http://www.cus.cam.ac.uk/~fanf2/hermes/doc/misc/sending-from-cudn.txt

Date: 2005-10-25 17:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] techiebloke.livejournal.com
I concur about the style; I understood (most of) it, but my sister wouldn't.

For extra foul-and-perversity points:

ipfw add fwd message-submission-server,80 log tcp from any to message-submission-on-every-port 80 setup keep-state
ipfw add fwd message-submission-server,25 log tcp from any to message-submission-on-every-port setup keep-state


& have a small applet on the web server that probes to see which ports are visable (and with which you can starttls and get the right certificate). You could then say "roaming users should go to http://message-submission-on-every-port.camacuk/whatports.html and do what it tells them."

(I use this trick to my sshd from behind random firewalls)


Finally, a pedant point:

--- sending-from-cudn.txt.orig  2005-10-25 17:13:48.000000000 +0100
+++ sending-from-cudn.txt       2005-10-25 17:57:11.000000000 +0100
@@ -45,7 +45,7 @@
 not enforced, but we intend that insecure access will be withdrawn by
 Summer 2006. http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/securehermes.html
 Hermes ensures that the authenticated sender is clearly identified in
-the message header.
+a message header.

 Users of college or department email systems
 --------------------------------------------


Date: 2005-10-25 17:52 (UTC)
ext_8103: (Default)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
In 822-speak there is one header that consists of several header fields...

Date: 2005-10-25 19:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] techiebloke.livejournal.com
I think you mean 2822-speak; rfc 822 talks about "the headers".

What can I say? I'm old fashioned.

Date: 2005-10-26 08:38 (UTC)
ext_8103: (Default)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
Look closer. You'll find loads of references to header fields in 822.

Date: 2005-10-26 10:04 (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
RFC 822 does not speak about one header with many header fields. It always uses the term "header field" as the singular and either "header fields" or "headers" as the plural. I can find no reference to "the header" of a message, and many to the "the headers" of a message.

See, for example, the opening paragraph of section 3.1.

For the record, I think this is an amusing discussion that is irrelevant to Tony's document: "a header" rather than "the header" is a friendlier term for a document aimed at non-pedants; but if the document is aimed at those with an eye for detail then 2822 makes your position unassailable.

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